Comments on: Mooring VS Anchor https://www.projectbluesphere.com/2011/03/24/Mooring-VS-Anchor/ Land and Sea Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:57:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Mark https://www.projectbluesphere.com/2011/03/24/Mooring-VS-Anchor/#comment-2821 Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:57:08 +0000 #comment-2821 The trouble with anchoring/mooring, anywhere, is the majority people who cant get it right, or dont check and maintain there hook. If your anchor line chafes through, it probably wasnt looked at for weeks, or was far too light in the first place.

When an anchor or mooring drags it does horrendous damage to the sea beds and the fisheries there.

People actively living on boats tend to check there gear often cause they dont want there bedroom going walkies during the night. But even so, the authorities if they want to have a friendly chat would do well to talk about scope, ratios, and holding ground (sand, mud, rock etc).

Does the Florida government run TV adds on how to anchor correctly, and pass laws about the minimum size and type of ground tackle? Why arent marinas and mooring owners responsible for the maintenance of same and the damage they may cause?

Unfortunately some corporate types latch on to the conection between poor anchoring practice, seabed damage, and the money to be made by making people pay for marinas. A little lobbying later, and laws preventing all anchoring rear their heads.

]]> By: Mark https://www.projectbluesphere.com/2011/03/24/Mooring-VS-Anchor/#comment-2820 Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:19:06 +0000 #comment-2820 The trouble with anchoring/mooring, anywhere, is the majority people who cant get it right, or dont check and maintain there hook. If your anchor line chafes through, it probably wasnt looked at for weeks, or was far too light in the first place.

When an anchor or mooring drags it does horrendous damage to the sea beds and the fisheries there.

People actively living on boats tend to check there gear often cause they dont want there bedroom going walkies during the night. But even so, the authorities if they want to have a friendly chat would do well to talk about scope, ratios, and holding ground (sand, mud, rock etc).

Does the Florida government run TV adds on how to anchor correctly, and pass laws about the minimum size and type of ground tackle? Why arent marinas and mooring owners responsible for the maintenance of same and the damage they may cause?

Unfortunately some corporate types latch on to the conection between poor anchoring practice, seabed damage, and the money to be made by making people pay for marinas. A little lobbying later, and laws preventing all anchoring rear their heads.

]]> By: Mark https://www.projectbluesphere.com/2011/03/24/Mooring-VS-Anchor/#comment-2819 Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:03:45 +0000 #comment-2819 The trouble with anchoring/mooring, anywhere, is the majority people who cant get it right, or dont check and maintain there hook. If your anchor line chafes through, it probably wasnt looked at for weeks, or was far too light in the first place.

When an anchor or mooring drags it does horrendous damage to the sea beds and the fisheries there.

People actively living on boats tend to check there gear often cause they dont want there bedroom going walkies during the night. But even so, the authorities if they want to have a friendly chat would do well to talk about scope, ratios, and holding ground (sand, mud, rock etc).

Does the Florida government run TV adds on how to anchor correctly, and pass laws about the minimum size and type of ground tackle? Why arent marinas and mooring owners responsible for the maintenance of same and the damage they may cause?

Unfortunately some corporate types latch on to the conection between poor anchoring practice, seabed damage, and the money to be made by making people pay for marinas. A little lobbying later, and laws preventing all anchoring rear their heads.

]]> By: Mark https://www.projectbluesphere.com/2011/03/24/Mooring-VS-Anchor/#comment-2818 Tue, 29 Mar 2011 02:59:15 +0000 #comment-2818 The trouble with anchoring/mooring, anywhere, is the majority people who cant get it right, or dont check and maintain there hook. If your anchor line chafes through, it probably wasnt looked at for weeks, or was far too light in the first place.

When an anchor or mooring drags it does horrendous damage to the sea beds and the fisheries there.

People actively living on boats tend to check there gear often cause they dont want there bedroom going walkies during the night. But even so, the authorities if they want to have a friendly chat would do well to talk about scope, ratios, and holding ground (sand, mud, rock etc).

Does the Florida government run TV adds on how to anchor correctly, and pass laws about the minimum size and type of ground tackle? Why arent marinas and mooring owners responsible for the maintenance of same and the damage they may cause?

Unfortunately some corporate types latch on to the conection between poor anchoring practice, seabed damage, and the money to be made by making people pay for marinas. A little lobbying later, and laws preventing all anchoring rear their heads.

]]> By: SVPLANB4 https://www.projectbluesphere.com/2011/03/24/Mooring-VS-Anchor/#comment-2817 Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:59:33 +0000 #comment-2817 2. The State’s Inherent Police Power
States have an inherent police power to protect the publicʹs health, safety,
and welfare through regulation.142 As political subdivisions of the state,143 local
governments in Florida share the police power,144 including the authority to regulate
anchorages. Local regulations affecting navigation have long beenupheld.145 The United States Supreme Court in 1858 addressed whether a local government could prohibit vessels from remaining in a “harbor thoroughfare” or
require those vessels to display a light after dark.146 The Court called such regulations
“necessary and indispensable in every commercial port, for the convenience
and safety of commerce.”147 The Court also noted that “local authorities
have a right to prescribe at what wharf a vessel may lie, and how long she may
remain there, …where she may anchor in the harbor, and for what time.”148
Local governments may only invoke their police power to regulate anchorages,
however, if the regulation is necessary to protect the public health, safety and
welfare. Anyone challenging such an ordinance has the burden of proving it is
not even “fairly debatable” that the ordinance bears a rational relationship to a
legitimate objective of the police power.149 Challenges of that nature are thus
rarely successful. In Dennis v. Key West, however, the court struck down a local
regulation that prohibited “live‐aboard” vessels that were not moored or docked
within a local yacht club or public dock.150 The Florida Third District Court of
Appeals ruled that the regulation was an abuse of police power because “there
was no discernible relationship between the regulation and the health, safety, or
welfare of the general populace.”151 The court upheld two sections of the ordinance,
however, that required approved sanitation equipment on all “live‐aboard”
vessels because of their clear relationship to public health.152 No other courts
have reached this conclusion, and in a subsequent decision, the same court
upheld a ban on “live‐aboard” vessels in the City of Miami.153 In Dozier v. City of
Miami, the court found from testimony before the City Commission and from the
language of the ordinance that it was designed to address problems of water pol‐
lution, navigational hazards and visual intrusion, thus justifying regulation under
the police power.
145

]]> By: Darrin https://www.projectbluesphere.com/2011/03/24/Mooring-VS-Anchor/#comment-2816 Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:50:36 +0000 #comment-2816 Yeah. I know Vinnie. He got a huge settlement out of that.
Here is my humble opinion on the matter of the Pilot Program, although i didn’t go into as much depth as i originally intended. just ended up being yet another pissy rant:

sailboattrash.wordpress.com

]]> By: Alex https://www.projectbluesphere.com/2011/03/24/Mooring-VS-Anchor/#comment-2815 Sun, 27 Mar 2011 20:02:50 +0000 #comment-2815 Okay guys, if your interested in anchoring rights here is some info:

http://www.flseagrant.org/images/PDFs/anchoring%20away_03_09_11_full_web3.pdf

Download and read this PDF. I havent had time to read much of it or digest what I have. If you are interested please read and comment.

Everything must be so complicated, eah?

Cheers.

]]> By: Alex https://www.projectbluesphere.com/2011/03/24/Mooring-VS-Anchor/#comment-2814 Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:22:15 +0000 #comment-2814 and Robert Moon

Rob,

Thanks, thats why I posted the names, good luck, I see your in Cali, say hi to her for me.

]]> By: Rob Moon https://www.projectbluesphere.com/2011/03/24/Mooring-VS-Anchor/#comment-2813 Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:05:49 +0000 #comment-2813 Alex, I purchased one of your raffles tickets via paypal on Dec 2, 2010. I notice I was not on your list of raffle ticket purchasers. Transaction ID #0NT90158GH111783D. Appreciate it if you could check it out. Thanks!

]]> By: Alex https://www.projectbluesphere.com/2011/03/24/Mooring-VS-Anchor/#comment-2812 Sun, 27 Mar 2011 03:24:08 +0000 #comment-2812 Gary,

No, not regulated down here. You know the drill down here, personal responsibility. If you slip in a store there is nobody to sue :)

I like it.

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